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		<title>By: Meme Definition - the 7 link challenge meme &#124; Home To Heather</title>
		<link>http://hometoheather.com/2009/05/are-you-comfy-cause-it-might-be-a-long-one/comment-page-1/#comment-7024</link>
		<dc:creator>Meme Definition - the 7 link challenge meme &#124; Home To Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 08:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s my issue with this list. It was published by Nielsen who is &#039;supposed&#039; to be an authority on such things as rankings. Then when it comes to light that the person who wrote the post for them didn&#039;t do any research comes to light, they backtrack and say &quot;Well, it&#039;s not a finished list.&quot; What a cop out.

Then, you have the list itself. If the aim was to highlight the mom blogging community, then there are blogs on the list who are not what I would consider to be mom bloggers, but rather celebrity bloggers. Then you have highly influential communities that were left off the community list Like 5m4m. Then you have obscure blogs that none of the bloggers I&#039;ve seen discussing this list have even heard of until now. I still maintain this list was put together from someone&#039;s blog roll and friends list. There was no research done.

Yes, any list like this will be subjective. Why do bloggers care so much? The ones trying to work with companies care because those companies are not insiders to blogging and take these lists at face value. Companies will think bloggers on these lists are somehow more valuable than bloggers not on the list even though we all know that&#039;s not necessarily true. This also holds true for advertising on blogs. Bloggers trying to sell advertising space may get overlooked because they weren&#039;t on the list, even though they&#039;re actually a better fit for a sponsor.

Were there blogs on this list that deserved to be there? Absolutely? Were there blogs left off? You bet. Until some proof is shown to me that there was any sort of fact gathering done before the article was written, then I&#039;m just going to think that some blogger with too much time on their hands got Nielsen&#039;s ear and wrote a shoddy list for them to publish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my issue with this list. It was published by Nielsen who is &#8216;supposed&#8217; to be an authority on such things as rankings. Then when it comes to light that the person who wrote the post for them didn&#8217;t do any research comes to light, they backtrack and say &#8220;Well, it&#8217;s not a finished list.&#8221; What a cop out.</p>
<p>Then, you have the list itself. If the aim was to highlight the mom blogging community, then there are blogs on the list who are not what I would consider to be mom bloggers, but rather celebrity bloggers. Then you have highly influential communities that were left off the community list Like 5m4m. Then you have obscure blogs that none of the bloggers I&#8217;ve seen discussing this list have even heard of until now. I still maintain this list was put together from someone&#8217;s blog roll and friends list. There was no research done.</p>
<p>Yes, any list like this will be subjective. Why do bloggers care so much? The ones trying to work with companies care because those companies are not insiders to blogging and take these lists at face value. Companies will think bloggers on these lists are somehow more valuable than bloggers not on the list even though we all know that&#8217;s not necessarily true. This also holds true for advertising on blogs. Bloggers trying to sell advertising space may get overlooked because they weren&#8217;t on the list, even though they&#8217;re actually a better fit for a sponsor.</p>
<p>Were there blogs on this list that deserved to be there? Absolutely? Were there blogs left off? You bet. Until some proof is shown to me that there was any sort of fact gathering done before the article was written, then I&#8217;m just going to think that some blogger with too much time on their hands got Nielsen&#8217;s ear and wrote a shoddy list for them to publish.</p>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 06:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel rather new to the community of mom bloggers. What I see, though, is not just an interesting discussion, but the idea of &quot;influential&quot; being explored and refined. I&#039;ve turned to many of the women on the MomDot list when looking for direction in one arena or another. That&#039;s influential.

Maybe I&#039;m off, or maybe it&#039;s just my perspective, but it seems that many of the influential women are marketers themselves or are forerunners in marketing through mom bloggers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel rather new to the community of mom bloggers. What I see, though, is not just an interesting discussion, but the idea of &#8220;influential&#8221; being explored and refined. I&#8217;ve turned to many of the women on the MomDot list when looking for direction in one arena or another. That&#8217;s influential.</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m off, or maybe it&#8217;s just my perspective, but it seems that many of the influential women are marketers themselves or are forerunners in marketing through mom bloggers.</p>
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		<title>By: Astacia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Astacia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 05:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree! Nielsen was way off the mark with that list. It should not have been published as it was if it was not gelled.

Jessica- Why was it in powerpoint? if it wasn&#039;t done, keep it as a blog post with a large disclaimer.

I love that you mentioned Kelby. She is top on my list as a power moms. That Nielsen list was not Mom 2.0. Power moms are so much more than bloggers.

I am going to link this post in the Type-A Mom article I am writing about this topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree! Nielsen was way off the mark with that list. It should not have been published as it was if it was not gelled.</p>
<p>Jessica- Why was it in powerpoint? if it wasn&#8217;t done, keep it as a blog post with a large disclaimer.</p>
<p>I love that you mentioned Kelby. She is top on my list as a power moms. That Nielsen list was not Mom 2.0. Power moms are so much more than bloggers.</p>
<p>I am going to link this post in the Type-A Mom article I am writing about this topic.</p>
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		<title>By: Trisha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trisha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 04:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for the record, I just went and counted, only 7 of the listed 58 people we have up are active members of the Momdot Community.


~Trisha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for the record, I just went and counted, only 7 of the listed 58 people we have up are active members of the Momdot Community.</p>
<p>~Trisha</p>
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		<title>By: Trisha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trisha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 04:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I would be happy to call any of the women on the list we created &quot;friends&quot;, I am quite sure many of them either don&#039;t know who I am or would disagree profusely with the statement. In fact, some of the women we listed down right cant STAND me, nor I them. But I am honest and this has nothing to do with friendship.

Our list, interestingly, includes very few people that actually hang in my personal social media circle. We used a variety of resources to create a more well rounded list that represents a larger aspect of online, involved influential women and not the least of it was  due to people who we are buddies with. I cant even get Meghan Calhoun to return an email to me.

I am pretty sure that heather can attest that if my list was based on friendship, she would be right on it.

Additionally, we did ask for suggestions in the comments because we note that online communities have niche markets that include leaders we may never be exposed to. I am not a frequenter of frugal blogs for example and someone pointed out Tara of Deal Seeking Mom. She is exactly right. Tara is a leader and has a massive audience. We want those suggestions because otherwise the list will continue to be flawed.

Nonetheless, our list was only blogger made. We are not a company and we don&#039;t represent any company other than just our blog and it still had more credibility to it. Nielson made the mistake by not providing or backing up data and on top of it, leaving off some of the largest online leaders made the list look like a complete sham to anyone involved in the mom blog world.

Thankfully posts like Heathers here bring intelligent and thoughtful discussion and Neilson can read the feedback and in the future, provide a better more well rounded list based on actual blogger feedback of what influence means in the blogosphere.


~Trisha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I would be happy to call any of the women on the list we created &#8220;friends&#8221;, I am quite sure many of them either don&#8217;t know who I am or would disagree profusely with the statement. In fact, some of the women we listed down right cant STAND me, nor I them. But I am honest and this has nothing to do with friendship.</p>
<p>Our list, interestingly, includes very few people that actually hang in my personal social media circle. We used a variety of resources to create a more well rounded list that represents a larger aspect of online, involved influential women and not the least of it was  due to people who we are buddies with. I cant even get Meghan Calhoun to return an email to me.</p>
<p>I am pretty sure that heather can attest that if my list was based on friendship, she would be right on it.</p>
<p>Additionally, we did ask for suggestions in the comments because we note that online communities have niche markets that include leaders we may never be exposed to. I am not a frequenter of frugal blogs for example and someone pointed out Tara of Deal Seeking Mom. She is exactly right. Tara is a leader and has a massive audience. We want those suggestions because otherwise the list will continue to be flawed.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, our list was only blogger made. We are not a company and we don&#8217;t represent any company other than just our blog and it still had more credibility to it. Nielson made the mistake by not providing or backing up data and on top of it, leaving off some of the largest online leaders made the list look like a complete sham to anyone involved in the mom blog world.</p>
<p>Thankfully posts like Heathers here bring intelligent and thoughtful discussion and Neilson can read the feedback and in the future, provide a better more well rounded list based on actual blogger feedback of what influence means in the blogosphere.</p>
<p>~Trisha</p>
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		<title>By: mannequin</title>
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		<dc:creator>mannequin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 02:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the whole thing very unprofessional and very much like an engineer that sits in his office designing expressways and ramps . Unless you&#039;re out there driving, you have no clue what the necessary components are to a nice, safe trip.

 I think I have an influential plan. Give away gift cards like a maniac.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the whole thing very unprofessional and very much like an engineer that sits in his office designing expressways and ramps . Unless you&#8217;re out there driving, you have no clue what the necessary components are to a nice, safe trip.</p>
<p> I think I have an influential plan. Give away gift cards like a maniac.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 02:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kelby,

You&#039;re right - there isn&#039;t a yardstick for bloggers and numbers can only allude to so much.  To really know what&#039;s going on you need to be a part of the culture.  Which is the sad thing.  Jessica who wrote the list is on twitter and is a member of the mom bloggers club and all of that and she still came out not knowing what was going on because she didn&#039;t reach out to start relationships.  She was there but she wasn&#039;t connecting.  Which goes to show - social media isn&#039;t special unless you really try to foster relationships....it&#039;s just voyeurism.

And thank you and Megan for acknowledging that the people who are on that list...they aren&#039;t just numbers but they are bloggers and the intent of my posting this isn&#039;t to belittle them in any way shape or form.  But when we are talking about these things we always say &#039;&lt;em&gt;well, so and so should have done their research&#039;&lt;/em&gt; and where are they supposed to do their research if a trusted source like Nielsen is falling flat on their collective faces and failing at providing information with substance? This is my main point.  Nielsen stepped into the ring and offered this information as fact... But we know it has huge holes and people just need to know what they are reading as they are reading it.  Don&#039;t they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kelby,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right &#8211; there isn&#8217;t a yardstick for bloggers and numbers can only allude to so much.  To really know what&#8217;s going on you need to be a part of the culture.  Which is the sad thing.  Jessica who wrote the list is on twitter and is a member of the mom bloggers club and all of that and she still came out not knowing what was going on because she didn&#8217;t reach out to start relationships.  She was there but she wasn&#8217;t connecting.  Which goes to show &#8211; social media isn&#8217;t special unless you really try to foster relationships&#8230;.it&#8217;s just voyeurism.</p>
<p>And thank you and Megan for acknowledging that the people who are on that list&#8230;they aren&#8217;t just numbers but they are bloggers and the intent of my posting this isn&#8217;t to belittle them in any way shape or form.  But when we are talking about these things we always say &#8216;<em>well, so and so should have done their research&#8217;</em> and where are they supposed to do their research if a trusted source like Nielsen is falling flat on their collective faces and failing at providing information with substance? This is my main point.  Nielsen stepped into the ring and offered this information as fact&#8230; But we know it has huge holes and people just need to know what they are reading as they are reading it.  Don&#8217;t they?</p>
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		<title>By: Megan {Velveteen Mind}</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megan {Velveteen Mind}</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 01:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I came back.  I just want to reiterate what Kelby said and what Jessica Smith recently brought up on twitter--  This is not about diminishing those that are on the list.  Had Nielsen considered more than stark numbers and taken a hard look at what our community considers engagement and influence, a good number of the same names would have remained on the list.  As they should.

The questions arise when we begin to see names that are foreign to us because the voice behind it is amplified through a megaphone from behind a stone wall.  Or we know that the numbers lie about real engagement and are rather inflated by transient traffic that stops by for merely a second or two in order to register for a giveaway by filling up the comments.  (Not that giveaways are bad, there is a place for them.)

The questions always boils back down to &quot;What do numbers mean to us?&quot;  Unfortunately, companies are used to speaking only numbers.  So how do we make their metrics more meaningful and valuable?  Because companies can&#039;t sit around reading our blogs and stroking our souls to decide who should be on their lists.

Man, this was going to be a short comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I came back.  I just want to reiterate what Kelby said and what Jessica Smith recently brought up on twitter&#8211;  This is not about diminishing those that are on the list.  Had Nielsen considered more than stark numbers and taken a hard look at what our community considers engagement and influence, a good number of the same names would have remained on the list.  As they should.</p>
<p>The questions arise when we begin to see names that are foreign to us because the voice behind it is amplified through a megaphone from behind a stone wall.  Or we know that the numbers lie about real engagement and are rather inflated by transient traffic that stops by for merely a second or two in order to register for a giveaway by filling up the comments.  (Not that giveaways are bad, there is a place for them.)</p>
<p>The questions always boils back down to &#8220;What do numbers mean to us?&#8221;  Unfortunately, companies are used to speaking only numbers.  So how do we make their metrics more meaningful and valuable?  Because companies can&#8217;t sit around reading our blogs and stroking our souls to decide who should be on their lists.</p>
<p>Man, this was going to be a short comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 01:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel also that I should qualify my above rant a little bit. I do have MANY friends and fave bloggers who are on the list, and I sure hope none of them read this as a criticism of them. Two of my Type-A Mom editors are on the list, and absolutely deserve to be there in my mind. My criticism is less about who IS on the list and more about some of the real heavy influencers they missed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel also that I should qualify my above rant a little bit. I do have MANY friends and fave bloggers who are on the list, and I sure hope none of them read this as a criticism of them. Two of my Type-A Mom editors are on the list, and absolutely deserve to be there in my mind. My criticism is less about who IS on the list and more about some of the real heavy influencers they missed.</p>
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